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THE PROCESS: HOW TO GO FROM A FIRST CONTACT WITH A WOMAN TO AN IN-PERSON FIRST MEETING






Sunday, April 22, 2007

Sausage Party in Downtown Manhattan?

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No wonder I jump on the subway and head uptown the second I leave my office...

Today's New York Times had an interesting article regarding demographics in New York City ("Lower Manhattan, Higher Testoterone" by Sam Roberts). It seems that since 2000, most of Lower Manhattan's growth (75% of it in fact!) has been as a result of 25 to 44 year old men moving into the area.

Most of this growth has been attributed to "workaholics" moving closer to the booming post-9/11 World Trade Center/ Wall Street area, with a third of them walking to work. Ladies, the statistics speak for themselves - 126 men for every 100 women - many of them professional eligable bachelors!

In fact, the average income in the area is nearly TWICE that of the rest of Manhattan. Yes, we know money isn't everything and being a gold digger is just about the lowest a woman can go, but as Ben Affleck's character in Boiler Room said: "Anybody who says money isn't everything doesn't have any!" and "They say money can't buy happiness? Look at the smile on my face... ear to ear, baby!"

And yes guys, there's hope for you too according to the article. The rest of Manhattan has a much more appealing ratio for single men - 90 men for every 100 women!

So get out there and start meeting people!

Alexander Stone and Stephen David
Copyright 2007
ApproachDynamics/ OnlineDatingEdge

Wednesday, April 18, 2007

A Good Approach Example - 'Before Sunrise'

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I recently saw the movie ‘Before Sunrise.’ The premise of the movie is that an American backpacker (played by Ethan Hawke) strikes up a conversation with a cute French girl while on a train to Vienna, Austria. He then persuades her to get off the train with him in Vienna and join him for his last night in Europe. You can check it out on Netflix here.

At the beginning of the movie, the French girl changes her seat on the train due to a German couple arguing, and ends up sitting directly across the aisle from Ethan Hawke. The two of them make eye contact, and Hawke makes a comment to her about the argument. Before you know it, the two of them are grabbing a bite together in the snack car. It’s on!

Had Ethan Hawke wussed out and not said anything to the girl, the dynamic between the two characters would never have had an opportunity to develop. By merely opening his mouth and saying something, he eventually managed to convince this girl - a complete stranger - to get off the train and accompany him for his last night in town.

The point is that you cannot have any interactions with women (or anyone else for that matter) unless you can initiate a conversation. Who knows? If the conversation goes well, you can get her phone number or try and set up an instant date. "Hey, I’m going to grab some coffee. Come join me." Worst case? She is not interested, and you have another approach under your belt. Absolute worst case? The girl totally freaks out on you, and you now have a great story to tell your friends!

Alexander Stone & Stephen David
Copyright 2007 - Online Dating Edge/ Approach Dynamics

Tuesday, April 17, 2007

Are Men Becoming Obsolete?

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One question that routinely comes up within the dating populace is, “where have all the good guys/girls gone?” We constantly hear this complaint from both men and women.

In a recent development, researchers announced they could produce sperm in a petri dish and fertilize a mouse egg. So apparently women that are interested in men for their sperm need not worry - help may be on the horizon! Click here for more info.

On a serious note, there are millions of great people out their just looking for love! You need to get out their to find it, either in your everyday life by making conversation or being personable, having friends introduce you to other people, or trying out the online dating scene!

As a friend of mine once said to his buddy (Tom), “You’ll never meet anyone at 123 Main Street (Tom’s address)!” I would be remiss not to mention 'Tom' actually did meet someone without leaving 123 Main Street, a girl moved in across the street and they are currently dating. But none of that would have happened had one of them not initiated a conversation.

Alexander Stone & Steven David

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Thursday, April 12, 2007

Online Dating - The First Meeting

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Notice I did not say the "first date." At this point, the two of you are still complete strangers. Sure, you have exchanged a couple of emails (hopefully not more than that) and have spoken on the phone once, but none of it means anything until you actually meet face-to-face.

The purpose of this initial meeting is to determine whether there is any physical attraction and/or chemistry between the two of you. That being the case, you want to create as low pressure an environment as possible. Make sure you meet in a public place and you each get there on your own. Also, keep it inexpensive and low-key. I like to meet initially for coffee or drinks. This way if the chemistry is not there, you can duck out with minimal time spent. Also, an inexpensive meeting like this will help you weed out the professional daters and gold-diggers that are just out for free food and entertainment at your expense. Leave those women for the chode who can't wait to show off his new BMW or brag about his job as an investment banker.

The following are some good ideas and basics for the first time you are going to be meeting someone. Whether you met this person online or through the infamous ‘blind date,’ this type of first meeting has somewhat of a different dynamic than your traditional 'first date' (which you shouldn't be doing either, but I'll save that for another column).

Obviously, the first thing you need to do is set up the date. If you have done everything right up until this point, this should be easy. Just call her up and ask her out. But before you call, make sure you have a specific date, time and place in mind. Be decisive. "Let’s grab drinks Thursday night. How’s 8:00? Great! Meet me at XXX CafĂ© 49th and 5th." Then GET OFF THE PHONE. Save the conversation for when you meet.

Things to keep in mind for the first meeting:

  • You MUST have the mindset that you are the prize. You are meeting her to see if she lives up to YOUR expectations. NOT the other way around. These subtle things make a world of difference.
  • If she is late, DO NOT wait more than 15 minutes for her. If she does not show up or call you within 15 minutes, LEAVE and throw her number away. Also, have something to do until she arrives, and make her find you when she gets there.
  • Remember, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN.

I attribute a lot of my first-meeting successes to the prep work I did beforehand. Make sure you have these bases covered:

  • Shine your shoes. It is one of the first things women notice.
  • Remember - belt matches your shoes and socks match your pants.
  • As for cologne, a good rule of thumb is that if Walgreens sells your favorite scent in a two-liter bottle, it’s time to find something else. Go to Sephora and ask women what they like - also a good conversation opener!
  • Have gum/mints on you. And keep it in a place it can be discreetly accessed.
  • Before you meet, re-read her online profile and the emails you have exchanged. Try and come up with some specific questions about her. Also, try to come up with default topics to talk about in case there are some awkward pauses in the conversation (relationship dysfunction, celebrity gossip - **Tip** read US Weekly for good stuff to talk about).

Here are some tips for setting up the first meeting:

  • No weekends. She needs to think you have a life of your own and are out doing your own thing on Saturday and Sunday. Make the first meeting on a Mon-Thurs.
  • Try to get there a few minutes early. This way you can make sure you get a good table and also find out whether the place itself is going to be a distraction (too noisy, crowded, rude waitstaff, etc). **TIP** - Try and go to a place that has tables which let you sit side-by-side as opposed to across from each other.
  • Have at least 2-3 backup places in mind nearby in case you have to change venue at the last minute due to unforeseen circumstances.
  • Also, have a few things in mind to do afterwards if things are going well. Try to make them interactive (i.e. bowling, pool, Megatouch in a bar, foosball, rollerskating, etc.).

And finally, some suggestions for the meeting itself:

  • Keep the conversation light and funny. No heavy topics, no complaints, no insults.
  • Topics to avoid at all costs - Physical ailments, rape or violence, Star Trek, anything self-deprecating, anything overtly sexual, your arrest record, Dungeons and Dragons, ex-girlfriends, that time that you got drunk and wet yourself, religion, politics, marriage, children.
  • However, feel free to tease her a little. Disagree with her once or twice. Once she says something you disagree with, give her that "You are messing up your chances with me" look. Another line I like to use is "and you were doing SO well..." I also like to use my hand and signal that she just went down a notch.
  • Stare at her face, NOT at her chest.
  • Do not lean into her. Lean back and make her come towards you. Also, do not face her directly when talking. Have her turn her body towards you.
  • Always pay for the first meeting. While you should never take her up on her feeble "how much do I owe you" routine, DO take notice if she fails to offer. And for god sakes, DON’T USE A COUPON.
  • No more than ONE compliment on the first meeting. And try to be more creative than, "You’re so hot."
  • DO NOT make plans for another date while out on this one. Leave her wondering. The key word here is CHALLENGE.
  • Be sure you are the one who ends the date first. Try to end it on a high note - leave her wanting more!

At the end of the date, take some quick notes on what worked and what didn't. Do not worry about making mistakes - it is part of the learning process. Remember, each date is practice for the next one!

Happy Dating!

Alexander Stone & Stephen David
Copyright 2007 - ApproachDynamics/Online Dating Edge

Monday, April 9, 2007

Checking Out Your Date on Google

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Have you ever Googled someone before a date?

And to think there was actually a time where I thought I was the only one doing this!

There was also a time in the not-too-distant past where this question would have made for a great conversational opener with someone you just met: "HEY! My friend and I were having a debate and I would love to get a female/male opinion - have you ever Googled someone before a date?" This could lead to SO many different areas, including swapping war stories about things you have found or teasing the person doing the Googling for being a stalker. But not anymore.

Checking someone out online before a date no longer has that creepy stigma attached to it. These days, you are almost foolish NOT to Google someone before you meet. At the very least, you can find out what they are into and come up with some good conversation topics for your first meeting. And worst case? You find out they are wanted in Arizona, married with five children or still live with mommy and daddy at the tender age of 40, and you have now saved yourself from a bad date.

One final tip - Google yourself. Make sure you know what is out there on you - and be prepared to discuss it if it comes up. And if she does, you can still tease her about being a stalker!

There was a good article today from CNN on this topic. You can find the link below:
Googling Your Date

Alexander Stone & Stephen David
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Sunday, April 8, 2007

Smartass Answers to Dumbass Questions

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How many people have you slept with?
Are you a player?
How old are you?
Does my ass look fat in these jeans?

There is going to come a point during an interaction with a women when you are likely to get hit with a question such as the ones above - the kind where you sit there asking yourself, 'what is she REALLY trying to find out?' The purpose of this article is to prepare you for this situation ahead of time, so you don't find yourself tongue tied (or WORSE, actually answer the question)!

These questions are TESTS and if you are not careful, you could end up divulging a LOT more information than you had planned.

***EDITORS NOTE - Now there ARE certain circumstances where one of these questions may in fact be appropriate (i.e. you are seriously dating someone and she wants to know if you are sleeping around for obvious health reasons). As with everything, these MUST be taken in context. The above article is geared towards those interactions with women where this information is still none of her business.

Let me give you an example. I was recently out with a girl I have been dating, and was asked how many people I have slept with. Seemed like an odd question, but there was alcohol involved (btw... 'I was drunk' is NOT a valid excuse for anything you do or say). I smiled and politely told her that I was a virgin. Apparently, that wasn’t gonna fly:

Her: No seriously, how many people have you slept with?
Me: In total, or just women?
Her: Stop it. Answer the question.
Me: You mean today?
Her: (getting frustrated) C’mon, knock it off.
Me: Well, does your mom count?
Her: Why wont you just answer the question?
Me: What question?

She finally gave up and moved on. Test passed!

The key is to be prepared for these situations ahead of time - and to NEVER give a direct answer. Remain calm, SMILE and use humor to deflect the question. Ask yourself, "How would Cary Grant or James Bond respond to that? What would Jim Carrey say?"

Not giving a straight answer to one of these questions accomplishes a lot of things at once - it shows that you have a sense of humor, a personality and subtly tells her than you are not some wussbag that is going to do whatever she wants.

It is also a good idea to have a couple of prepared answers to some of the most common questions you will face. I’ll get you started:

Q: Are you a player?
A: Yeah. I went 3 for 4 last night with 2 RBIs (then CHANGE SUBJECT).

Q: How old are you?
A: (Add or subtract 20 years from your real age)

Q: Does my ass look fat in these jeans?
A: Yes, your ass looks fat in those jeans (wink); OR
A: (sigh of relief) For a second there I thought you were going to ask me about your hair (smile and wink).

Q: What do you do?
A: click here

Got a dating question? Write to us at: Dating@ApproachDynamics.com

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Friday, April 6, 2007

Dating Tips From Warren Buffett

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I sat back today to read over the annual report for Berkshire Hathaway, which I do every year and suggest that if you are interested in investing, you do the same.

Anyway, let me get to the point and how this relates to dating and approaching women...

Here is an excerpt from Warren Buffett:
"Our exemplar is the older man who crashed his grocery cart into that of a much younger fellow while both were shopping. The elderly man explained apologetically that he had lost track of his wife and was preoccupied searching for her. His new acquaintance said that by coincidence his wife had also wandered off and suggested that it might be more efficient if they jointly looked for the two women. Agreeing, the older man asked his new companion what his wife looked like. 'She’s a gorgeous blonde, the fellow answered, 'with a body that would cause a bishop to go through a stained glass window, and she’s wearing tight white shorts. How about yours?' The senior citizen wasted no words: 'Forget her, we’ll look for yours.'"

The point of his story is that in dating, just as investing, if you see a golden opportunity, GO FOR IT! Think of that cute guy or girl from the subway or the bookstore that you were pretty sure was smiling at you, but you didn’t approach for whatever reason. The ‘stained glass window’ represents any perceived obstacles or limiting beliefs that you may have about approaching. Make like the bishop and break through anything that is getting in your way of reaching your goal. Remember, the outcome doesn't matter - it's the fact that you had the balls to try.

If you need help in taking that first step or would like to pick up some pointers, click here or check out our previous post on approach.

Alexander Stone & Stephen David
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